Comments on: Siren Pr… know anything about hyperlinks then? http://www.travelblather.com/2008/11/siren-pr-know-anything-about-hyperlinks-then.html Banter between travel writers, travel PRs and travel social media people Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:59:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Volunteer2009 http://www.travelblather.com/2008/11/siren-pr-know-anything-about-hyperlinks-then.html/comment-page-1#comment-605 Volunteer2009 Tue, 20 Jan 2009 05:41:24 +0000 http://www.travelblather.com/2008/11/siren-pr-know-anything-about-hyperlinks-then.html#comment-605 A great blog with many tips and information for the future volunteer that will travel abroad. Cheap tickets, how to travel, when to go, the pro and cons of volunteering, and much more. <a href="http://blog.abroaderview.org" rel="nofollow">http://blog.abroaderview.org</a> A great blog with many tips and information for the future volunteer that will travel abroad. Cheap tickets, how to travel, when to go, the pro and cons of volunteering, and much more. http://blog.abroaderview.org

]]> By: Jeremy Head http://www.travelblather.com/2008/11/siren-pr-know-anything-about-hyperlinks-then.html/comment-page-1#comment-604 Jeremy Head Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:40:00 +0000 http://www.travelblather.com/2008/11/siren-pr-know-anything-about-hyperlinks-then.html#comment-604 Hi Mark Really good summaries there... Very interesting that you have gone out of your way to engage and offer advice... Makes a lot of sense, and maybe my approach has been a tad too combative at times. I SO agree with some of your tips. 'Put contact details on every email' and 'learn to spell' in particular. I'd add learn some proper grammar too. I've been thinking of an 'apostrophe of the week' award for some time now! Cheers! Jeremy Hi Mark
Really good summaries there... Very interesting that you have gone out of your way to engage and offer advice... Makes a lot of sense, and maybe my approach has been a tad too combative at times. I SO agree with some of your tips. 'Put contact details on every email' and 'learn to spell' in particular. I'd add learn some proper grammar too. I've been thinking of an 'apostrophe of the week' award for some time now!
Cheers!
Jeremy

]]> By: Mark Hodson http://www.travelblather.com/2008/11/siren-pr-know-anything-about-hyperlinks-then.html/comment-page-1#comment-603 Mark Hodson Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:52:56 +0000 http://www.travelblather.com/2008/11/siren-pr-know-anything-about-hyperlinks-then.html#comment-603 Hi Jeremy, This is a subject I've visited a couple of times. Here: http://www.markhodson.net/10-tips-for-prs and here: http://www.markhodson.net/prs-how-to-pitch And I even gave the blighters a right to reply: http://www.markhodson.net/pr-tips-for-journalists I think you should push ahead with your campaign to out crap PRs. See which ones are brave enough to keep you on their mailing lists. Hi Jeremy,

This is a subject I've visited a couple of times.
Here:
http://www.markhodson.net/10-tips-for-prs
and here:
http://www.markhodson.net/prs-how-to-pitch
And I even gave the blighters a right to reply:
http://www.markhodson.net/pr-tips-for-journalists

I think you should push ahead with your campaign to out crap PRs. See which ones are brave enough to keep you on their mailing lists.

]]> By: Jeremy Head http://www.travelblather.com/2008/11/siren-pr-know-anything-about-hyperlinks-then.html/comment-page-1#comment-602 Jeremy Head Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:32:01 +0000 http://www.travelblather.com/2008/11/siren-pr-know-anything-about-hyperlinks-then.html#comment-602 Hi Neal Thanks for your comments... I agree totally... If I set the PR one up you can set the journo one up! ;-) Cheers Jeremy Hi Neal

Thanks for your comments... I agree totally... If I set the PR one up you can set the journo one up! ;-)

Cheers
Jeremy

]]> By: Neal http://www.travelblather.com/2008/11/siren-pr-know-anything-about-hyperlinks-then.html/comment-page-1#comment-601 Neal Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:24:09 +0000 http://www.travelblather.com/2008/11/siren-pr-know-anything-about-hyperlinks-then.html#comment-601 Hi Jeremy, I wanted to chip in with my thoughts. First off, I'm a journo now employed by Siren, so have a foot in both camps! I think you're right in pointing out the original gaffe, and have been good enough to accept that innocent mistakes do happen. There's certainly a place for a blog pointing out PR puffery and rubbish (I've seen some shockers in my time too), but there's a definite 'pot-kettle-black' issue here. I've got almost 10 years experience on travel trade papers (ex chief sub and deputy editor on Travel Weekly and freelancing) and before that spent a good deal of time doing casual Fleet Street subbing shifts. And guess what... there are plenty of journos working today who couldn't write their way out of a wet paper bag. I've worked with many excellent writers and have good relationships with plenty more - and they'll all say the same, that they know colleagues who are kept in work purely because of the efforts of sub editors. Blog with examples of bad PR by all means - but let's have a section where PRs can shame lazy/rude hacks, and subs can submit examples of the illiterate, ill-informed and hackneyed that they stop getting into print on a daily basis. Hi Jeremy, I wanted to chip in with my thoughts. First off, I'm a journo now employed by Siren, so have a foot in both camps! I think you're right in pointing out the original gaffe, and have been good enough to accept that innocent mistakes do happen.

There's certainly a place for a blog pointing out PR puffery and rubbish (I've seen some shockers in my time too), but there's a definite 'pot-kettle-black' issue here.
I've got almost 10 years experience on travel trade papers (ex chief sub and deputy editor on Travel Weekly and freelancing) and before that spent a good deal of time doing casual Fleet Street subbing shifts. And guess what... there are plenty of journos working today who couldn't write their way out of a wet paper bag. I've worked with many excellent writers and have good relationships with plenty more - and they'll all say the same, that they know colleagues who are kept in work purely because of the efforts of sub editors.
Blog with examples of bad PR by all means - but let's have a section where PRs can shame lazy/rude hacks, and subs can submit examples of the illiterate, ill-informed and hackneyed that they stop getting into print on a daily basis.

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